DeepSeek-V4.1-Flashvs.Qwen 3.8 27B
Which one is better?
DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash is clearly ahead in the overall index. Qwen 3.8 27B is cheaper for input, DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash for output.
48
DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash
Rank 23 to 34
11
Qwen 3.8 27B
Rank 44 to 57
177
DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash
fast
40
Qwen 3.8 27B
slow
$0.26
DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash
cheap
$0.66
Qwen 3.8 27B
fairly cheap
DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash
- Subscription
No DeepSeek subscription includes this model. Through other providers from ≈ €1.06 a month (Command Code Go, with limited credits). 28 plans in Germany.
- Via API
$0.15 input, $0.60 output per 1M tokens according to the provider; the price index has listed it at $0.30 and $1 since Sep 26, 2026.
- Note
- There is a successor: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 (rank 14 to 22, same price).
Qwen 3.8 27B
- Subscription
No Alibaba subscription includes this model. Through other providers from ≈ €1.06 a month (Command Code Go, with limited credits). 10 plans in Germany.
- Via API
$0.04 input, $2.50 output per 1M tokens according to the provider; the price index has listed it at $0.42 and $3 since Oct 27, 2026.
Overall index with data through Oct 29, 2026 · Prices from Oct 29, 2026 · Speed: measured by Artificial Analysis · Subscriptions as of Oct 24, 2026 · Subscription prices incl. VAT
Where is the difference?
Values from 0 to 100 per task area. We only name a winner when the gap is large enough and there are enough tests.
DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash ahead: 8Qwen 3.8 27B ahead: 0level: 0too little data: 2of 10 areas
AreaDeepSeek-V4.1-FlashQwen 3.8 27B0 to 100, higher is betterResult
Areas in the overall index
CodingDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash aheadDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 47Qwen 3.8 27B: 13
ReasoningDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash aheadDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 46Qwen 3.8 27B: 6
MathematicsDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash aheadDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 40Qwen 3.8 27B: 8
Knowledgeonly Qwen 3.8 27B has a scoreDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: not enough dataQwen 3.8 27B: 5
AgentsDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash aheadDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 69Qwen 3.8 27B: 21
Generalonly DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash has a scoreDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 42Qwen 3.8 27B: not enough data
MultimodalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash aheadDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 34Qwen 3.8 27B: 13
Specialist fields
FinanceDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash aheadDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 60Qwen 3.8 27B: 34
LegalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash aheadDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 52Qwen 3.8 27B: 23
HealthDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash aheadDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 33Qwen 3.8 27B: 3
Show 3 more areas that do not count toward the overall index
AreaDeepSeek-V4.1-FlashQwen 3.8 27B0 to 100, higher is betterResult
CybersecurityDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash aheadDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 66Qwen 3.8 27B: 19
Productivityonly DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash has a scoreDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 49Qwen 3.8 27B: not enough data
Educationonly DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash has a scoreDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 41Qwen 3.8 27B: not enough data
See for yourself: same task, one attempt
SVG short test
One SVG task with the same fixed settings for every model, without hidden thinking.
Shared test round: 43b8c5c46830
DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash
Test details
API reports 0 reasoning tokensAPI model: deepseek/deepseek-v4.1-flash590 output tokensQwen 3.8 27B
Test details
API reports 0 reasoning tokensAPI model: qwen/qwen3.8-27b865 output tokensEarlier tests
Pelican on a bicycle
A community classic for free-form SVG drawing.
DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash
The response reached the token limit. No complete recording is available.
Reasoning (requested): high
Current attempt
- Run date
- Oct 5, 2026
- API provider
- openrouter
- Requested API model
- deepseek/deepseek-v4.1-flash
- API model reported in response
- deepseek/deepseek-v4.1-flash
- Reasoning setting
- high
- Pinned endpoint
- DeepSeek | deepseek/deepseek-v4.1-flash-20260910
- Temperature
- Provider default
- Token limit including reasoning
- 8,192 tokens
- Test protocol
- community-visual-tests-v1
- Technical checks
- Failed
- Response time
- 25.8 s
Not yet visually reviewed. A successful recording does not confirm correct physics or full compliance with the prompt.
Earlier attempts (2)
- Oct 2, 2026API request failedReasoning setting: high
- Oct 1, 2026API request failedReasoning setting: high
Qwen 3.8 27B
Not tested yet
Prompt and test conditions
Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle
Token limit including reasoning: 8,192 tokens
Task origin (Simon Willison)All data side by side
The better value is bold. For the overall index only when the gap is clear.
| Metric | DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash | Qwen 3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| Intelligence | ||
| Overall index0 to 100, higher is better | 48 | 11 |
| Rank | Rank 23 to 34 of 95 | Rank 44 to 57 of 95 |
| Price per 1M tokens | ||
| Inputwhat you send | $0.15 | $0.04 |
| Outputwhat the model writes | $0.60 | $2.50 |
| Speed | ||
| Tokens per second | 177 | 40 |
| Technical | ||
| Context windowhow much text the model reads at once | 1 M tokens≈ 1,500 A4 pages | 262,144 tokens≈ 390 A4 pages |
| Knowledge cutoff | n/a | n/a |
| Released | Sep 10, 2026 | Aug 14, 2026 |
| Availability | Active | Active |
| Open weights | yes | yes |
- DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: At peak times (Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, 01:00-04:00 UTC; Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, 06:00-10:00 UTC) the price is $0.30 input and $1.20 output per 1M tokens. The table shows the off-peak price.
Prices without caching or batch discounts · Page count as a rule of thumb from Artificial Analysis
Shared benchmarks
Single results from the same benchmark version, task and metric. A value is bold only with the same test setup and a clear gap.
A: DeepSeek-V4.1-FlashB: Qwen 3.8 27B
Code MigrationOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 45.6%Qwen 3.8 27B: 14.2%Vals AIAs of 10/18/2026
CritPt v2Overall · higher is betterDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 0.3%Qwen 3.8 27B: 0.3%Artificial AnalysisAs of 10/29/2026
CyberBench v1.1Overall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 73.7%Qwen 3.8 27B: 67.8%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
EMBOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 57.2%Qwen 3.8 27B: 59.7%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent (v2)Overall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 53.5%Qwen 3.8 27B: 48.6%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
FrontierCode 1.1 MainOverall · higher is betterDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 40.8%Qwen 3.8 27B: 7.9%Artificial AnalysisAs of 10/29/2026
GDPval-AAOverall · higher is betterDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 1,349.33 eloQwen 3.8 27B: 1,082.47 eloArtificial AnalysisAs of 10/29/2026
IOIOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 40.3%Qwen 3.8 27B: 39.1%Vals AIAs of 10/24/2026
Legal Research BenchOverall · All-pass · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 41.3%Qwen 3.8 27B: 36.1%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
LegalBenchOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 83.3%Qwen 3.8 27B: 82.4%Vals AIAs of 10/13/2026
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MedCodeOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 41.2%Qwen 3.8 27B: 28.7%Vals AIAs of 10/13/2026
MedScribeOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 85.5%Qwen 3.8 27B: 83.8%Vals AIAs of 10/13/2026
MMMU-ProOverall · higher is betterDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 65.6%Qwen 3.8 27B: 69.9%Artificial AnalysisAs of 10/29/2026
ProgramBenchOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 0.5%Qwen 3.8 27B: 0%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
ProofBench v1.1Overall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 54%Qwen 3.8 27B: 16%Vals AIAs of 10/24/2026
SkillsBenchOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 69.8%Qwen 3.8 27B: 38.1%Vals AIAs of 09/27/2026
Tax Agent BenchOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 26.6%Qwen 3.8 27B: 30.9%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Terminal-Bench 2.1Overall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 74.5%Qwen 3.8 27B: 58.4%Vals AIAs of 10/01/2026
Terminal-Bench-ScienceOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 0%Qwen 3.8 27B: 0%Vals AIAs of 10/25/2026
Vibe Code Bench v1.1Overall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 84.7%Qwen 3.8 27B: 64.9%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Code MigrationCLI · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 37.5%Qwen 3.8 27B: 2.2%Vals AIAs of 10/18/2026
CyberBench v1.1Patch · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 85.7%Qwen 3.8 27B: 83.9%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
EMBComps · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 43.9%Qwen 3.8 27B: 53.3%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent (v2)Adjustments · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 49.2%Qwen 3.8 27B: 47.3%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
IOIIOI 2024 · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 42.7%Qwen 3.8 27B: 31.8%Vals AIAs of 10/24/2026
Legal Research BenchAdministrative / Regulatory · All-pass · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 53%Qwen 3.8 27B: 45.5%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
LegalBenchConclusion Tasks · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 89.1%Qwen 3.8 27B: 88.4%Vals AIAs of 10/13/2026
ProgramBenchAlmost Resolved · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 16.5%Qwen 3.8 27B: 1%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
SkillsBenchNo Skills · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 61.7%Qwen 3.8 27B: 19.1%Vals AIAs of 09/27/2026
Tax Agent BenchControversy & Precedence Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 3.3%Qwen 3.8 27B: 6.7%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Terminal-Bench 2.1Easy · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 91.7%Qwen 3.8 27B: 50%Vals AIAs of 10/01/2026
Terminal-Bench-ScienceEarth Sciences · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 0%Qwen 3.8 27B: 0%Vals AIAs of 10/25/2026
Code MigrationCOBOL · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 70%Qwen 3.8 27B: 50%Vals AIAs of 10/18/2026
CyberBench v1.1PoC · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 61.7%Qwen 3.8 27B: 51.7%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
EMBDataroom · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 73.9%Qwen 3.8 27B: 79.7%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent (v2)All-Pass · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 41.1%Qwen 3.8 27B: 36.8%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
IOIIOI 2025 · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 35.2%Qwen 3.8 27B: 48.5%Vals AIAs of 10/24/2026
Legal Research BenchAdministrative / Regulatory · Weighted partial credit · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 89.1%Qwen 3.8 27B: 88.5%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
LegalBenchInterpretation Tasks · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 80.4%Qwen 3.8 27B: 82%Vals AIAs of 10/13/2026
ProgramBenchFully Resolved · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 0.5%Qwen 3.8 27B: 0%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
SkillsBenchWith Skills · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 69.8%Qwen 3.8 27B: 38.1%Vals AIAs of 09/27/2026
Tax Agent BenchControversy & Precedence Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 52.8%Qwen 3.8 27B: 48.3%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Terminal-Bench 2.1Hard · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 56.7%Qwen 3.8 27B: 43.3%Vals AIAs of 10/01/2026
Terminal-Bench-ScienceEngineering Sciences · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 0%Qwen 3.8 27B: 0%Vals AIAs of 10/25/2026
Code MigrationCode Quality · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 4.411 / 5Qwen 3.8 27B: 4.197 / 5Vals AIAs of 10/18/2026
EMBDCF · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 51%Qwen 3.8 27B: 50%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent (v2)Comparables · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 46.1%Qwen 3.8 27B: 38.9%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
IOIIOI 2026 · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 43%Qwen 3.8 27B: 36.8%Vals AIAs of 10/24/2026
Legal Research BenchBusiness & Commercial · All-pass · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 39.5%Qwen 3.8 27B: 41.9%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
LegalBenchIssue Tasks · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 88.8%Qwen 3.8 27B: 90.2%Vals AIAs of 10/13/2026
ProgramBenchRaw Pass Rate · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 72%Qwen 3.8 27B: 11.2%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Tax Agent BenchCurrent & Temporal Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 39%Qwen 3.8 27B: 43.1%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Terminal-Bench 2.1Medium · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 83%Qwen 3.8 27B: 67.3%Vals AIAs of 10/01/2026
Terminal-Bench-ScienceLife Sciences · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 0%Qwen 3.8 27B: 0%Vals AIAs of 10/25/2026
EMBLBO · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 54.2%Qwen 3.8 27B: 53.7%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent (v2)Disclosure Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 61.3%Qwen 3.8 27B: 60.3%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Legal Research BenchBusiness & Commercial · Weighted partial credit · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 86.7%Qwen 3.8 27B: 86.8%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
LegalBenchRhetoric Tasks · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 80.1%Qwen 3.8 27B: 81.4%Vals AIAs of 10/13/2026
Tax Agent BenchCurrent & Temporal Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 71.9%Qwen 3.8 27B: 58.6%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Terminal-Bench-ScienceMathematical Sciences · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 0%Qwen 3.8 27B: 0%Vals AIAs of 10/25/2026
EMBM&A · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 57.8%Qwen 3.8 27B: 64.8%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent (v2)Earnings Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 72.9%Qwen 3.8 27B: 70.9%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Legal Research BenchCivil Litigation · All-pass · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 48.1%Qwen 3.8 27B: 25.9%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
LegalBenchRule Tasks · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalDeepSeek-V4.1-Flash: 78%Qwen 3.8 27B: 70.2%Vals AIAs of 10/13/2026
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