DeepSeek-V4-Flashvs.Qwen 3.8 27B
Which one is better?
Only Qwen 3.8 27B has a place in the overall index so far; DeepSeek-V4-Flash does not have enough benchmark results yet. Qwen 3.8 27B is cheaper for input, DeepSeek-V4-Flash for output.
DeepSeek-V4-Flash
not ranked yet
Qwen 3.8 27B
Rank 44 to 57
DeepSeek-V4-Flash
fairly fast
Qwen 3.8 27B
slow
DeepSeek-V4-Flash
cheap
Qwen 3.8 27B
fairly cheap
DeepSeek-V4-Flash
- Subscription
No DeepSeek subscription includes this model. Through other providers from ≈ €1.06 a month (Command Code Go, with limited credits). 10 plans in Germany.
- Via API
$0.15 input, $0.30 output per 1M tokens according to the provider; the price index has listed it at $0.13 and $0.26 since Oct 26, 2026.
- Note
- There is a successor: DeepSeek-V4.1-Flash (rank 23 to 34, $0.15 input, $0.60 output).
Qwen 3.8 27B
- Subscription
No Alibaba subscription includes this model. Through other providers from ≈ €1.06 a month (Command Code Go, with limited credits). 10 plans in Germany.
- Via API
$0.04 input, $2.50 output per 1M tokens according to the provider; the price index has listed it at $0.42 and $3 since Oct 27, 2026.
Overall index with data through Oct 29, 2026 · Prices from Oct 29, 2026 · Speed: measured by Artificial Analysis · Subscriptions as of Oct 24, 2026 · Subscription prices incl. VAT
Where is the difference?
Values from 0 to 100 per task area. We only name a winner when the gap is large enough and there are enough tests.
DeepSeek-V4-Flash ahead: 1Qwen 3.8 27B ahead: 0level: 0too little data: 8of 9 areas
Show 1 more areas that do not count toward the overall index
See for yourself: same task, one attempt
SVG short test
One SVG task with the same fixed settings for every model, without hidden thinking.
Shared test round: 43b8c5c46830
DeepSeek-V4-Flash
Test details
API reports 0 reasoning tokensAPI model: deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash-0731798 output tokensQwen 3.8 27B
Test details
API reports 0 reasoning tokensAPI model: qwen/qwen3.8-27b865 output tokensEarlier tests
Pelican on a bicycle
A community classic for free-form SVG drawing.
DeepSeek-V4-Flash
The response reached the token limit. No complete recording is available.
Reasoning (requested): high
Current attempt
- Run date
- Oct 5, 2026
- API provider
- openrouter
- Requested API model
- deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash-0731
- API model reported in response
- deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash-0731
- Reasoning setting
- high
- Pinned endpoint
- StreamLake | deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash-20260731
- Temperature
- Provider default
- Token limit including reasoning
- 8,192 tokens
- Test protocol
- community-visual-tests-v1
- Technical checks
- Failed
- Response time
- 97.8 s
Not yet visually reviewed. A successful recording does not confirm correct physics or full compliance with the prompt.
Earlier attempts (3)
- Oct 2, 2026API request failedReasoning setting: high
- Oct 1, 2026API request failedReasoning setting: high
- Sep 7, 2026API request failedReasoning setting: high
Qwen 3.8 27B
Not tested yet
Prompt and test conditions
Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle
Token limit including reasoning: 8,192 tokens
Task origin (Simon Willison)All data side by side
The better value is bold. For the overall index only when the gap is clear.
| Metric | DeepSeek-V4-Flash | Qwen 3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| Intelligence | ||
| Overall index0 to 100, higher is better | n/a | 11 |
| Rank | not ranked yet | Rank 44 to 57 of 95 |
| Price per 1M tokens | ||
| Inputwhat you send | $0.15 | $0.04 |
| Outputwhat the model writes | $0.30 | $2.50 |
| Speed | ||
| Tokens per second | 119 | 40 |
| Technical | ||
| Context windowhow much text the model reads at once | 1 M tokens≈ 1,500 A4 pages | 262,144 tokens≈ 390 A4 pages |
| Knowledge cutoff | n/a | n/a |
| Released | Apr 24, 2026 | Aug 14, 2026 |
| Availability | Limited access | Active |
| Open weights | yes | yes |
Prices without caching or batch discounts · Page count as a rule of thumb from Artificial Analysis
Shared benchmarks
Single results from the same benchmark version, task and metric. A value is bold only with the same test setup and a clear gap.
No directly comparable result yet
No published benchmark for DeepSeek-V4-Flash and Qwen 3.8 27B currently matches in version, task and metric. We therefore show no estimated or blended values.
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