Gemini 3.8 Flashvs.DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
Which one is better?
Level in the overall index: the gap is too small for a clear winner. DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 is cheaper: Gemini 3.8 Flash costs 5 times (input) and 6.3 times (output) as much per token.
67
Gemini 3.8 Flash
Rank 15 to 20
64
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
Rank 14 to 22
133
Gemini 3.8 Flash
fairly fast
178
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
fast
$1.50
Gemini 3.8 Flash
fairly cheap
$0.26
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
cheap
Gemini 3.8 Flash
- Subscription
Free to use at Google (Google AI Free, with limited credits), more from €4.99 a month (Google AI Plus, with limited credits). Through other providers from ≈ €6.36 a month (ElevenLabs Starter, with limited credits). 59 plans in Germany.
- Via API
$0.75 input, $3.75 output per 1M tokens, unchanged since Sep 2, 2026.
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
- Subscription
No DeepSeek subscription includes this model. Through other providers from ≈ €6.36 a month (Token Plan Individual Lite, with limited credits). 7 plans in Germany.
- Via API
$0.15 input, $0.60 output per 1M tokens according to the provider; the price index has listed it at $0.30 and $1 since Oct 26, 2026.
Overall index with data through Oct 29, 2026 · Prices from Oct 29, 2026 · Speed: measured by Artificial Analysis · Subscriptions as of Oct 24, 2026 · Subscription prices incl. VAT
Where is the difference?
Values from 0 to 100 per task area. We only name a winner when the gap is large enough and there are enough tests.
Gemini 3.8 Flash ahead: 3DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 ahead: 3level: 1too little data: 3of 10 areas
AreaGemini 3.8 FlashDeepSeek V4.1 Flash 10170 to 100, higher is betterResult
Areas in the overall index
CodingDeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 aheadGemini 3.8 Flash: 50DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 72
ReasoningGemini 3.8 Flash aheadGemini 3.8 Flash: 78DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 45
Mathematicsonly Gemini 3.8 Flash has a scoreGemini 3.8 Flash: 50DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: not enough data
KnowledgeGemini 3.8 Flash aheadGemini 3.8 Flash: 80DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 33
AgentsDeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 aheadGemini 3.8 Flash: 54DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 75
Generalonly Gemini 3.8 Flash has a scoreGemini 3.8 Flash: 64DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: not enough data
MultimodalGemini 3.8 Flash aheadGemini 3.8 Flash: 77DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 55
Specialist fields
FinancelevelGemini 3.8 Flash: 78DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 69
LegalDeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 aheadGemini 3.8 Flash: 52DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 76
Healthonly Gemini 3.8 Flash has a scoreGemini 3.8 Flash: 54DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: not enough data
Show 3 more areas that do not count toward the overall index
AreaGemini 3.8 FlashDeepSeek V4.1 Flash 10170 to 100, higher is betterResult
Cybersecurityonly Gemini 3.8 Flash has a scoreGemini 3.8 Flash: 24DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: not enough data
Productivityonly Gemini 3.8 Flash has a scoreGemini 3.8 Flash: 60DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: not enough data
Educationonly Gemini 3.8 Flash has a scoreGemini 3.8 Flash: 68DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: not enough data
See for yourself: same task, one attempt
The same prompt for both models. We show the latest attempt without fixes; it does not count toward the overall index.
Pelican on a bicycle
A community classic for free-form SVG drawing.
Gemini 3.8 Flash
The response reached the token limit. No complete recording is available.
Reasoning (requested): high
Current attempt
- Run date
- Oct 5, 2026
- API provider
- openrouter
- Requested API model
- google/gemini-3.8-flash
- API model reported in response
- google/gemini-3.8-flash
- Reasoning setting
- high
- Pinned endpoint
- Google AI Studio | google/gemini-3.8-flash-20260902
- Temperature
- Provider default
- Token limit including reasoning
- 8,192 tokens
- Test protocol
- community-visual-tests-v1
- Technical checks
- Failed
- Response time
- 40.2 s
Not yet visually reviewed. A successful recording does not confirm correct physics or full compliance with the prompt.
Earlier attempts (3)
- Oct 2, 2026API request failedReasoning setting: high
- Oct 1, 2026API request failedReasoning setting: high
- Sep 7, 2026API request failedReasoning setting: high
DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
Not tested yet
Prompt and test conditions
Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle
Token limit including reasoning: 8,192 tokens
Task origin (Simon Willison)SVG short test
There is no shared test round for this selection. Results from different rounds are not mixed.
All data side by side
The better value is bold. For the overall index only when the gap is clear.
| Metric | Gemini 3.8 Flash | DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017 |
|---|---|---|
| Intelligence | ||
| Overall index0 to 100, higher is better | 67 | 64 |
| Rank | Rank 15 to 20 of 95 | Rank 14 to 22 of 95 |
| Price per 1M tokens | ||
| Inputwhat you send | $0.75 | $0.15 |
| Outputwhat the model writes | $3.75 | $0.60 |
| Speed | ||
| Tokens per second | 133 | 178 |
| Technical | ||
| Context windowhow much text the model reads at once | 1.05 M tokens≈ 1,570 A4 pages | 1.05 M tokens≈ 1,570 A4 pages |
| Knowledge cutoff | March 2026 | n/a |
| Released | Sep 2, 2026 | Oct 17, 2026 |
| Availability | Active | Open Source |
| Open weights | no | yes |
- DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: At peak times (Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, 01:00-04:00 UTC; Mon, Tue, Wed, Thu, Fri, 06:00-10:00 UTC) the price is $0.30 input and $1.20 output per 1M tokens. The table shows the off-peak price.
- DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017, Time-based API pricing: Off peak: $0.15 input, $0.60 output, and $0.003 cached input. Weekdays UTC 01:00-04:00 and 06:00-10:00: $0.30, $1.20, and $0.006. Chinese public holidays are excluded. Source
Prices without caching or batch discounts · Page count as a rule of thumb from Artificial Analysis
Shared benchmarks
Single results from the same benchmark version, task and metric. A value is bold only with the same test setup and a clear gap.
A: Gemini 3.8 FlashB: DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017
Code MigrationOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 36.5%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 44.2%Vals AIAs of 10/18/2026
Code Migration v1.1Overall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 38.6%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 67.5%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
EMBOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 72.2%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 61.8%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
EMB v1.1Overall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 72.9%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 69.2%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Finance Agent (v2)Overall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 61.4%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 57%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent v2.1Overall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 65.8%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 62.9%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
HLAB-Vals-1.1Overall · Task fully resolved · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 12.1%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 14.2%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Legal Research BenchOverall · All-pass · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 38.9%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 45.2%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
LMArena Code Arena WebDevOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 1,584DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 1,666LMArenaAs of 10/27/2026
Tax Agent BenchOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 32.1%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 44.4%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Show 54 more benchmarks
Terminal-Bench 4.0Overall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 19.7%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 31.8%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Vals Finance IndexOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 60.5%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 60.9%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Vals IndexOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 56%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 61.3%Vals AIAs of 10/27/2026
Vals Legal IndexOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 69.8%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 71.9%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Vals Router IndexOverall · higher is betterGemini 3.8 Flash: 56%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 61.3%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Vibe Code Bench v1.1Overall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 78.7%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 87.7%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Code MigrationCLI · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 25.9%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 35.6%Vals AIAs of 10/18/2026
Code Migration v1.1CLI · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 27.6%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 59.2%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
EMBComps · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 76.4%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 49.8%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
EMB v1.1Comps · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 76%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 70.8%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Finance Agent (v2)Adjustments · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 54.8%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 58.4%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent v2.1Adjustments · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 61.9%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 66.8%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
HLAB-Vals-1.1Antitrust Competition · Criteria passed · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 92.9%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 93.5%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Legal Research BenchAdministrative / Regulatory · All-pass · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 47%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 59.1%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
LMArena Code Arena WebDevHTML development · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 1,613DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 1,705LMArenaAs of 10/27/2026
Tax Agent BenchControversy & Precedence Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 6.7%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 23.3%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Terminal-Bench 4.0Hardware · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 26.7%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 6.7%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Vals Finance IndexEMB v1.1 · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 72.9%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 69.2%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Vals IndexCode Migration v1.1 · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 38.2%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 68.5%Vals AIAs of 10/27/2026
Vals Legal IndexBusiness & Commercial · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 67%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 68%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Vals Router IndexCode Migration · higher is betterGemini 3.8 Flash: 38.2%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 68.5%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Code MigrationCOBOL · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 68.6%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 70%Vals AIAs of 10/18/2026
Code Migration v1.1COBOL · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 71.7%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 92.5%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
EMBDataroom · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 86.2%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 82.8%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
EMB v1.1Dataroom · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 87.8%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 86.5%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Finance Agent (v2)All-Pass · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 49.7%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 45.2%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent v2.1All-Pass · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 54.5%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 51.3%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
HLAB-Vals-1.1Antitrust Competition · Task fully resolved · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 0%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 30%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Legal Research BenchAdministrative / Regulatory · Weighted partial credit · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 87.6%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 91.3%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
LMArena Code Arena WebDevReact development · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 1,577DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 1,672LMArenaAs of 10/27/2026
Tax Agent BenchControversy & Precedence Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 59%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 73.2%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Terminal-Bench 4.0Media · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 16.7%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 25%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Vals Finance IndexFinance Agent v2.1 · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 65.8%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 62.9%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Vals IndexEMB v1.1 · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 72.9%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 69.2%Vals AIAs of 10/27/2026
Vals Legal IndexCivil Negligence · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 61.3%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 64.6%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Vals Router IndexCoding · higher is betterGemini 3.8 Flash: 45.5%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 62.7%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Code MigrationCode Quality · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 3.742 / 5DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 3.992 / 5Vals AIAs of 10/18/2026
Code Migration v1.1Code Quality · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 2.9%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 3.5%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
EMBDCF · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 63.7%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 53%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
EMB v1.1DCF · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 66.1%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 59.7%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Finance Agent (v2)Comparables · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 52%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 47.5%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent v2.1Comparables · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 59.2%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 59.8%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
HLAB-Vals-1.1Arbitration International Dispute Resolution · Criteria passed · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 91.8%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 91.8%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Legal Research BenchBusiness & Commercial · All-pass · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 41.9%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 44.2%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
LMArena Code Arena WebDevWeb development · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 1,584DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 1,666LMArenaAs of 10/27/2026
Tax Agent BenchCurrent & Temporal Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 43.3%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 56.4%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Terminal-Bench 4.0ML · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 18.2%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 42.4%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Vals Finance IndexTax Agent Bench · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 32.1%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 44.4%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Vals IndexFinance Agent v2.1 · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 65.8%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 62.9%Vals AIAs of 10/27/2026
Vals Legal IndexCriminal · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 66.1%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 62.5%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Vals Router IndexEMB · higher is betterGemini 3.8 Flash: 72.9%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 69.2%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
EMBLBO · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 58.6%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 57.8%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
EMB v1.1LBO · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 62.2%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 62.5%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Finance Agent (v2)Disclosure Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 3.8 Flash: 68.5%DeepSeek V4.1 Flash 1017: 66.3%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
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