Qwen 3.8 Max 0902vs.Qwen 3.8 27B

Is the higher price worth it?

If you need top performance, yes: Qwen 3.8 Max 0902 is clearly ahead in the overall index and costs 41.3 times (input) and 2 times (output) as much per token.

IntelligenceOverall index, 0 to 100 · higher is better

Qwen 3.8 Max 0902

Rank 23 to 31

Qwen 3.8 27B

Rank 44 to 57

SpeedTokens per second · higher is better

Qwen 3.8 Max 0902

slow

Qwen 3.8 27B

slow

PriceDollars per 1M tokens · lower is better

$2.48

Qwen 3.8 Max 0902

fairly expensive

$0.66

Qwen 3.8 27B

fairly cheap

Qwen 3.8 Max 0902

Subscription: No Alibaba subscription includes this model. Through other providers from ≈ €1.06 a month (Command Code Go, with limited credits). 5 plans in Germany.
Via API: $1.65 input, $4.951 output per 1M tokens, unchanged since Aug 24, 2026.

Qwen 3.8 27B

Subscription: No Alibaba subscription includes this model. Through other providers from ≈ €1.06 a month (Command Code Go, with limited credits). 10 plans in Germany.
Via API: $0.04 input, $2.50 output per 1M tokens according to the provider; the price index has listed it at $0.42 and $3 since Oct 27, 2026.

Overall index with data through Oct 29, 2026 · Prices from Oct 29, 2026 · Speed: measured by Artificial Analysis · Subscriptions as of Oct 24, 2026 · Subscription prices incl. VAT

Where is the difference?

Values from 0 to 100 per task area. We only name a winner when the gap is large enough and there are enough tests.

Qwen 3.8 Max 0902 ahead: 9Qwen 3.8 27B ahead: 0level: 0too little data: 1of 10 areas

AreaQwen 3.8 Max 0902Qwen 3.8 27B0 to 100, higher is betterResult

Areas in the overall index

CodingQwen 3.8 Max 0902 ahead5113

ReasoningQwen 3.8 Max 0902 ahead506

MathematicsQwen 3.8 Max 0902 ahead428

KnowledgeQwen 3.8 Max 0902 ahead395

AgentsQwen 3.8 Max 0902 ahead4621

Generalonly Qwen 3.8 Max 0902 has a score54not enough data

MultimodalQwen 3.8 Max 0902 ahead5613

Specialist fields

FinanceQwen 3.8 Max 0902 ahead4534

LegalQwen 3.8 Max 0902 ahead7623

HealthQwen 3.8 Max 0902 ahead313

Show 3 more areas that do not count toward the overall index

AreaQwen 3.8 Max 0902Qwen 3.8 27B0 to 100, higher is betterResult

CybersecurityQwen 3.8 27B ahead419

Productivityonly Qwen 3.8 Max 0902 has a score62not enough data

Educationonly Qwen 3.8 Max 0902 has a score22not enough data

See for yourself: same task, one attempt

The same prompt for both models. We show the latest attempt without fixes; it does not count toward the overall index.

Pelican on a bicycle

A community classic for free-form SVG drawing.

Qwen 3.8 Max 0902

The response reached the token limit. No complete recording is available.

Reasoning (requested): high

Current attempt

Run date: Oct 5, 2026
API provider: openrouter
Requested API model: qwen/qwen3.8-max-0902
API model reported in response: qwen/qwen3.8-max-0902
Reasoning setting: high
Pinned endpoint: Alibaba | qwen/qwen3.8-max-20260902
Temperature: Provider default
Token limit including reasoning: 8,192 tokens
Test protocol: community-visual-tests-v1
Technical checks: Failed
Response time: 189.9 s

Not yet visually reviewed. A successful recording does not confirm correct physics or full compliance with the prompt.

Earlier attempts (3)

Oct 2, 2026API request failedReasoning setting: high
Oct 1, 2026API request failedReasoning setting: high
Sep 7, 2026API request failedReasoning setting: high

Qwen 3.8 27B

Not tested yet

Prompt and test conditions

Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle

Token limit including reasoning: 8,192 tokens

Task origin (Simon Willison)

SVG short test

One SVG task with the same fixed settings for every model, without hidden thinking.

Shared test round: 43b8c5c46830

Qwen 3.8 Max 0902

Unavailable in this round

Qwen 3.8 27B

All data side by side

The better value is bold. For the overall index only when the gap is clear.

Metric	Qwen 3.8 Max 0902	Qwen 3.8 27B
Intelligence
Overall index0 to 100, higher is better	50	11
Rank	Rank 23 to 31 of 95	Rank 44 to 57 of 95
Price per 1M tokens
Inputwhat you send	$1.65	$0.04
Outputwhat the model writes	$4.951	$2.50
Speed
Tokens per second	41	40
Technical
Context windowhow much text the model reads at once	1 M tokens≈ 1,500 A4 pages	262,144 tokens≈ 390 A4 pages
Knowledge cutoff	n/a	n/a
Released	Sep 2, 2026	Aug 14, 2026
Availability	API-only	Active
Open weights	no	yes

Prices without caching or batch discounts · Page count as a rule of thumb from Artificial Analysis

Shared benchmarks

Single results from the same benchmark version, task and metric. A value is bold only with the same test setup and a clear gap.

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Where is the difference?

See for yourself: same task, one attempt

Pelican on a bicycle

SVG short test

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