Gemini 4 Argonvs.Qwen 3.8 27B
Which one is better?
Gemini 4 Argon is clearly ahead in the overall index, but costs 50 times (input) and 4 times (output) as much per token.
93
Gemini 4 Argon
Rank 2 to 7
11
Qwen 3.8 27B
Rank 44 to 57
82
Gemini 4 Argon
fairly slow
40
Qwen 3.8 27B
slow
$4
Gemini 4 Argon
fairly expensive
$0.66
Qwen 3.8 27B
fairly cheap
Gemini 4 Argon
- Subscription
At Google DeepMind from €21.99 a month (Google AI Pro, with limited credits). Through other providers from ≈ €6.36 a month (ElevenLabs Starter, with limited credits). 28 plans in Germany.
- Via API
$2 input, $10 output per 1M tokens.
- Note
- There is a successor: Gemini 4 Carbon (rank 1 to 5).
Qwen 3.8 27B
- Subscription
No Alibaba subscription includes this model. Through other providers from ≈ €1.06 a month (Command Code Go, with limited credits). 10 plans in Germany.
- Via API
$0.04 input, $2.50 output per 1M tokens according to the provider; the price index has listed it at $0.42 and $3 since Oct 27, 2026.
Overall index with data through Oct 29, 2026 · Prices from Oct 29, 2026 · Speed: measured by Artificial Analysis · Subscriptions as of Oct 24, 2026 · Subscription prices incl. VAT
Where is the difference?
Values from 0 to 100 per task area. We only name a winner when the gap is large enough and there are enough tests.
Gemini 4 Argon ahead: 8Qwen 3.8 27B ahead: 0level: 0too little data: 2of 10 areas
AreaGemini 4 ArgonQwen 3.8 27B0 to 100, higher is betterResult
Areas in the overall index
CodingGemini 4 Argon aheadGemini 4 Argon: 90Qwen 3.8 27B: 13
ReasoningGemini 4 Argon aheadGemini 4 Argon: 90Qwen 3.8 27B: 6
MathematicsGemini 4 Argon aheadGemini 4 Argon: 90Qwen 3.8 27B: 8
KnowledgeGemini 4 Argon aheadGemini 4 Argon: 97Qwen 3.8 27B: 5
AgentsGemini 4 Argon aheadGemini 4 Argon: 80Qwen 3.8 27B: 21
Generalonly Gemini 4 Argon has a scoreGemini 4 Argon: 92Qwen 3.8 27B: not enough data
Multimodalonly Qwen 3.8 27B has a scoreGemini 4 Argon: not enough dataQwen 3.8 27B: 13
Specialist fields
FinanceGemini 4 Argon aheadGemini 4 Argon: 92Qwen 3.8 27B: 34
LegalGemini 4 Argon aheadGemini 4 Argon: 91Qwen 3.8 27B: 23
HealthGemini 4 Argon aheadGemini 4 Argon: 93Qwen 3.8 27B: 3
Show 3 more areas that do not count toward the overall index
AreaGemini 4 ArgonQwen 3.8 27B0 to 100, higher is betterResult
CybersecurityGemini 4 Argon aheadGemini 4 Argon: 97Qwen 3.8 27B: 19
Productivityonly Gemini 4 Argon has a scoreGemini 4 Argon: 91Qwen 3.8 27B: not enough data
Educationonly Gemini 4 Argon has a scoreGemini 4 Argon: 90Qwen 3.8 27B: not enough data
See for yourself: same task, one attempt
SVG short test
One SVG task with the same fixed settings for every model, without hidden thinking.
Shared test round: 43b8c5c46830
Gemini 4 Argon
Unavailable in this round
Qwen 3.8 27B
Test details
API reports 0 reasoning tokensAPI model: qwen/qwen3.8-27b865 output tokensEarlier tests
This is the lowest documented setting for each provider. It does not make compute comparable across models.
Pelican on a bicycle
A community classic for free-form SVG drawing.
Gemini 4 Argon
Not tested yet
Qwen 3.8 27B
The response reached the token limit. No complete recording is available.
Reasoning (requested): disabled (enabled: false)
Current attempt
- Run date
- Oct 11, 2026
- API provider
- Alibaba
- Requested API model
- qwen/qwen3.8-27b
- API model reported in response
- qwen/qwen3.8-27b
- Reasoning setting
- disabled (enabled: false)
- Pinned endpoint
- Alibaba | qwen/qwen3.8-27b-20260814
- Temperature
- Provider default
- Token limit including reasoning
- 8,192 tokens
- Reasoning tokens
- 0
- Test protocol
- community-visual-low-v1
- Technical checks
- Failed
- Response time
- 119.1 s
Not yet visually reviewed. A successful recording does not confirm correct physics or full compliance with the prompt.
Prompt and test conditions
Generate an SVG of a pelican riding a bicycle
Token limit including reasoning: 8,192 tokens
Task origin (Simon Willison)All data side by side
The better value is bold. For the overall index only when the gap is clear.
| Metric | Gemini 4 Argon | Qwen 3.8 27B |
|---|---|---|
| Intelligence | ||
| Overall index0 to 100, higher is better | 93 | 11 |
| Rank | Rank 2 to 7 of 95 | Rank 44 to 57 of 95 |
| Price per 1M tokens | ||
| Inputwhat you send | $2 | $0.04 |
| Outputwhat the model writes | $10 | $2.50 |
| Speed | ||
| Tokens per second | 82 | 40 |
| Technical | ||
| Context windowhow much text the model reads at once | 1.05 M tokens≈ 1,570 A4 pages | 262,144 tokens≈ 390 A4 pages |
| Knowledge cutoff | n/a | n/a |
| Released | Oct 13, 2026 | Aug 14, 2026 |
| Availability | Active | Active |
| Open weights | no | yes |
- Gemini 4 Argon, Standard pricing through November 30, 2026: Per 1 million tokens: $2.00 input, $10.00 output including thinking, and $0.10 cached input. Source
- Gemini 4 Argon, Standard pricing from December 1, 2026: Per 1 million tokens: $4.00 input, $20.00 output including thinking, and $0.20 cached input. Source
- Gemini 4 Argon, Caching: Implicit caching only; explicit caching is not supported. Source
Prices without caching or batch discounts · Page count as a rule of thumb from Artificial Analysis
Shared benchmarks
Single results from the same benchmark version, task and metric. A value is bold only with the same test setup and a clear gap.
A: Gemini 4 ArgonB: Qwen 3.8 27B
Code MigrationOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 68.2%Qwen 3.8 27B: 14.2%Vals AIAs of 10/18/2026
CyberBench v1.1Overall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 77.9%Qwen 3.8 27B: 67.8%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
EMBOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 75.2%Qwen 3.8 27B: 59.7%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent (v2)Overall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 65.4%Qwen 3.8 27B: 48.6%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
IOIOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 100%Qwen 3.8 27B: 39.1%Vals AIAs of 10/24/2026
Legal Research BenchOverall · All-pass · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 54.8%Qwen 3.8 27B: 36.1%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
LegalBenchOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 88.3%Qwen 3.8 27B: 82.4%Vals AIAs of 10/13/2026
MedCodeOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 58.8%Qwen 3.8 27B: 28.7%Vals AIAs of 10/13/2026
MedScribeOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 87.4%Qwen 3.8 27B: 83.8%Vals AIAs of 10/13/2026
ProgramBenchOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 2.5%Qwen 3.8 27B: 0%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Show 54 more benchmarks
ProofBench v1.1Overall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 99%Qwen 3.8 27B: 16%Vals AIAs of 10/24/2026
Tax Agent BenchOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 44.6%Qwen 3.8 27B: 30.9%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Terminal-Bench 2.1Overall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 57.7%Qwen 3.8 27B: 58.4%Vals AIAs of 10/01/2026
Terminal-Bench-ScienceOverall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 44.3%Qwen 3.8 27B: 0%Vals AIAs of 10/25/2026
Vibe Code Bench v1.1Overall · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 91.9%Qwen 3.8 27B: 64.9%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Code MigrationCLI · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 67.6%Qwen 3.8 27B: 2.2%Vals AIAs of 10/18/2026
CyberBench v1.1Patch · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 85.7%Qwen 3.8 27B: 83.9%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
EMBComps · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 83%Qwen 3.8 27B: 53.3%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent (v2)Adjustments · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 60.5%Qwen 3.8 27B: 47.3%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
IOIIOI 2024 · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 100%Qwen 3.8 27B: 31.8%Vals AIAs of 10/24/2026
Legal Research BenchAdministrative / Regulatory · All-pass · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 68.2%Qwen 3.8 27B: 45.5%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
LegalBenchConclusion Tasks · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 90.8%Qwen 3.8 27B: 88.4%Vals AIAs of 10/13/2026
ProgramBenchAlmost Resolved · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 41%Qwen 3.8 27B: 1%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Tax Agent BenchControversy & Precedence Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 20%Qwen 3.8 27B: 6.7%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Terminal-Bench 2.1Easy · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 75%Qwen 3.8 27B: 50%Vals AIAs of 10/01/2026
Terminal-Bench-ScienceEarth Sciences · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 62.5%Qwen 3.8 27B: 0%Vals AIAs of 10/25/2026
Code MigrationCOBOL · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 70%Qwen 3.8 27B: 50%Vals AIAs of 10/18/2026
CyberBench v1.1PoC · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 70%Qwen 3.8 27B: 51.7%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
EMBDataroom · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 85.1%Qwen 3.8 27B: 79.7%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent (v2)All-Pass · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 55.8%Qwen 3.8 27B: 36.8%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
IOIIOI 2025 · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 100%Qwen 3.8 27B: 48.5%Vals AIAs of 10/24/2026
Legal Research BenchAdministrative / Regulatory · Weighted partial credit · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 92.9%Qwen 3.8 27B: 88.5%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
LegalBenchInterpretation Tasks · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 84.1%Qwen 3.8 27B: 82%Vals AIAs of 10/13/2026
ProgramBenchFully Resolved · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 2.5%Qwen 3.8 27B: 0%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Tax Agent BenchControversy & Precedence Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 63.6%Qwen 3.8 27B: 48.3%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Terminal-Bench 2.1Hard · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 53.3%Qwen 3.8 27B: 43.3%Vals AIAs of 10/01/2026
Terminal-Bench-ScienceEngineering Sciences · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 11.1%Qwen 3.8 27B: 0%Vals AIAs of 10/25/2026
Code MigrationCode Quality · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 3.574 / 5Qwen 3.8 27B: 4.197 / 5Vals AIAs of 10/18/2026
EMBDCF · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 65.7%Qwen 3.8 27B: 50%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent (v2)Comparables · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 51%Qwen 3.8 27B: 38.9%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
IOIIOI 2026 · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 100%Qwen 3.8 27B: 36.8%Vals AIAs of 10/24/2026
Legal Research BenchBusiness & Commercial · All-pass · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 46.5%Qwen 3.8 27B: 41.9%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
LegalBenchIssue Tasks · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 92.9%Qwen 3.8 27B: 90.2%Vals AIAs of 10/13/2026
ProgramBenchRaw Pass Rate · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 83.7%Qwen 3.8 27B: 11.2%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Tax Agent BenchCurrent & Temporal Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 66.7%Qwen 3.8 27B: 43.1%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Terminal-Bench 2.1Medium · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 58.8%Qwen 3.8 27B: 67.3%Vals AIAs of 10/01/2026
Terminal-Bench-ScienceLife Sciences · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 42.1%Qwen 3.8 27B: 0%Vals AIAs of 10/25/2026
EMBLBO · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 68.5%Qwen 3.8 27B: 53.7%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent (v2)Disclosure Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 74.5%Qwen 3.8 27B: 60.3%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Legal Research BenchBusiness & Commercial · Weighted partial credit · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 91.9%Qwen 3.8 27B: 86.8%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
LegalBenchRhetoric Tasks · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 82.8%Qwen 3.8 27B: 81.4%Vals AIAs of 10/13/2026
Tax Agent BenchCurrent & Temporal Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 84.6%Qwen 3.8 27B: 58.6%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Terminal-Bench-ScienceMathematical Sciences · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 58.8%Qwen 3.8 27B: 0%Vals AIAs of 10/25/2026
EMBM&A · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 81%Qwen 3.8 27B: 64.8%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent (v2)Earnings Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 84.8%Qwen 3.8 27B: 70.9%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Legal Research BenchCivil Litigation · All-pass · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 51.9%Qwen 3.8 27B: 25.9%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
LegalBenchRule Tasks · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 90.8%Qwen 3.8 27B: 70.2%Vals AIAs of 10/13/2026
Tax Agent BenchFact-Pattern Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 39.5%Qwen 3.8 27B: 34.9%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Terminal-Bench-SciencePhysical Sciences · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 41.2%Qwen 3.8 27B: 0%Vals AIAs of 10/25/2026
EMBMisc · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 74%Qwen 3.8 27B: 59.1%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Finance Agent (v2)Financial Modeling · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 29.8%Qwen 3.8 27B: 19.3%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
Legal Research BenchCivil Litigation · Weighted partial credit · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 95.1%Qwen 3.8 27B: 83.1%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
Tax Agent BenchFact-Pattern Analysis · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 76.7%Qwen 3.8 27B: 57.7%Vals AIAs of 10/26/2026
EMBOperating · higher is betterTest setup not documented as identicalGemini 4 Argon: 69.4%Qwen 3.8 27B: 57%Vals AIAs of 10/20/2026
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